Dates after company name indicates known (Yes, these This may range from ounce to 2 ounces. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. Stright from the Trap and Sporting Clays range. steel target loading. I know that lymans 5th is a good source, still there is alot of hulls that are out there that the 5th doesn't list. I do often reload these, however I make it a practice to discard them after maybe three or four firings at most just as a precautionary measure. thus baffling reloaders. Refine by Gauge: 16 Gauge 12 Gauge. (Hibbard, Spencer and Bartlett). #2 1330 11.8 8 5.8 76 Pellets-7/8oz 1315 11.6 7.9 5.7 87 Pellets-1oz 1295 11.3 7.7 5.6 97 Pellets-1 1/8oz 1240 10.6 7.3 5.4 airc those were called a type-5 and type-6 hull. True, but such overgeneralizations can negatively affect your hunting success. Hello, 0 . I just stick with Remington and leave it alone. STS Shotgun Hulls $55.00 Shipping calculated at checkout. Be alert for these changes! I wonder if they have changed that hull also. I reload Hull Superfast, Prosport, ProFibre, Sovereign and Xtrme in 70mm, Kent Velocity (sometimes! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. First, on a one-piece wadwhich contains the gas seal and shot cupthe base prevents propellant gases from bypassing it. What makes this so important is that the diameter of shotshell wads/gas seals can vary. The shell may be loaded with a slug or shot (size 0000 all the way up to #12 or dust shot), with the shot being made of either lead, steel, copper, bismuth or tungsten etc. bearing on the strength of the load. In addition to theoretical discussion, I will be performing a number of practical demonstrations on processes and products, including my own designs. The three piece design concept is based off the hull, casehead (brass), and wad are three pieces that makeup the hull. Wad thickness is likewise critical to protecting the bore from the shot, which can be harder than the barrel itself. The Premier being REMINGTON and the Blue Magic being PETERS. Keep your inspection eye open. The superior strength of this design allows these hulls to be reloaded many, many times, which is why they feature so prominently in modern reloading literature. Use it!) This hull is made in a number of gauges. any other manufacturer.) HEADSTAMP IDENTIFICATION. Marked "Wanda" in :yes: here are pictures of the black cloud hulls. - 1912*, - hurled as far as the reloader can fling them. posted of but it wasn't a BC hull. TARGET - These hulls made of the same design for a number of years. having some strange internal depth or overall length. Gauge 410 Bore. Chilled shot, which has an antimony content upward of 2 percent, is harder but still somewhat soft. Put the Ballistic Products catalog in one hand and the telephone in your other. The use of lead is increasingly being banned due to environmental concerns, however. Contributor Mike Roux takes his audience through a few factors that contribute to a successful hunt. I'm going to do a "torture test" on the hulls to see which brands survive the rigors of automatic cycling. Shotshell Hulls, Empty, Primed Safety Data Sheet according to Federal Register / Vol. This is tricky, because the two most common gauges12 and 20do resemble each other closely. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. the actual maker is. fiber base 3" on the left.3.5 hull on right white plastic. how come there is not a chart that id's all the hulls used. A fine do-all hull for target is the Remington STS in green and the same hull in Just a historical comment. on most older paper shells, there should be a paper cap that displays the powder duck blind can produce four different look-alike hulls. In 1932 Remington went bankrupt in 2020 and the name was purchased by Vista Outdoors, the original company and they use a USA headstamp). Cartridge Co.)modern. hull specification changes or variances. Choose whats in your budget but will give you the best performance. Its important to remember that paper basewads are not waterproof, meaning if you pick these up off the ground, they could be soggy from rain or dew. Chilled shot is commonly employed in economical game or target loads found at big-box stores. As the name implies, the walls are essentially completely straight. 4 to No. Shotshells are comprised of five basic components: hull, primer, powder, wad and shot. shapes), and additives to achieve a specific burn characteristic. As an observation it seems that my performance with the Rem hulls or the AA hulls I struggle for 88 to 90. The gauge of the ammunition must match the gauge of the shotgun which can be found on the shotgun barrel. But STS/NITRO 27 are best. West Meriden (some just say Meridian, some West Meridian and some W. As for slugs, they range from round ball (handloading required) and Foster-type slugs, to modern sabot rounds. Winchester AA. a big change. This should help get you started on the road to selecting the best hulls available in your area, as well as ensuring you understand the limitations and challenges associated with each of them. although now the Company name is being used by Cabela's, it is not the same as Please go to Appearance > Sidebars and drag a widget into User Submit Sidebar. headstamps: N.Y.C and NY Club. $17.98. Observed, F.D & Co. (F When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. in brackets is Modern hulls are made from plastic, though some target loads with paper hulls can still be purchased. Link, SEARS ALL Remington hulls load the same as do the older Win CF hulls. Some *, Keystone (Keystone Ammunition Co.,1879 They are the best hull for reloading right now hands down. Bulk (Liberty Cartridge Co.)1908 To increase the lethality of steel, companies have changed the shape to enhance trauma. A multitude of designs can be found to accomplish these tasks. roughly the same time. - 1917equipment cut them, measure them, and measure some wads. Muzzle Velocity 20 Yds. These are purpose-built to hasten pattern spread, making them great for close-range shots on fast-moving targets such as grouse, quail, chukar and rabbits. assessment and it is too much for this summary. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The Reloaders Networkfocuses on firearms, shooting sports, reloading, bullet casting, and the related gear and accessories. In this article, were going to take a look at what makes a quality hull for reloading, including body construction, basewad material and hull wall shape. Some shotshell boxes still list the dram equivalentdr. Which Shotshell Hulls Should I Use?So Many DecisionsRemington STS. Cases made by WRA Co. for them. reloaders best friend. Prior to 1922 was called Federal Cartridge and Machine Co. with same Federal Headstamps) Currently owned by ATK (along with Speer, Estate, RCBS, Weaver etc), HERTERS which remington is better than the other remington hull. Many of For years Winchester produced a high-brass version of the AA (SUPER-X, DOUBLE-X, alas, doubt they had their own headstamp. Bottles & 12-oz. Both Krider and Two-piece wads accomplish the same goal using a separate gas seal. The color, size and type of primer used Leet or C.D.L Springfield Mass(Same name). Develop a reloading routine and follow it; 7. An easy-to-use conversion table can be found on the internet. Or like White, yellow & black. Remington 1890-1911 then Combined with UMC to form Rocket (Sportsman International Cartridge Co.), Smiths Ideal In some two-piece designs, for example Winchesters AA branded HS plastic hull with a plastic basewad, the hull and basewad are virtually identical in coloring. Read on for his take on this Thai-inspired fusion dish. Lowell & Co. "She has never had a gun in her hand and yet she takes the old man's pistol and pumps six bullets into him. Density varies based upon composition, running from 9.6 gr./cc for bismuth/tin to around 18 gr./cc for tungsten (Tungsten Super Shot), and so does price; as this is written, bismuth is the most economical, non-steel replacement for lead, while TSS is the costliest. Hope this helps you out and break em all Jeff. Before you throw it, take a good look collector to determine just what you have. Holiday find shell heads and I am often asked for values on these shells. EX: AWestern are made of waste plastic and can be of any color. 1870-1890. A.L Howard or Standard (A.L Howard Company)*1887-1884 Co. (same name)1845-1916, L.D.F No. which are very different from each other. The standard 20-gauge shell has 7/8 ounce of shot. There are unique configurations, including those with tearaway petals or central posts. Refine by Gauge: 410 Bore 28 Gauge. Outside of buckshot and slugs, they all send a lot of shot downrange, right? (purchased To better understand shotshells, lets look at each of the five primary components individually. The exception is premium target loadsagain STS and AA HS. One Trigger the Ammunition Manufacturers Association (Winchester and USC Co.). I couldnt tell you why the STS shells are supperior (or if they really are), but I can tell you that I reloaded 100 STS and 100 AA's today. L.C Siner were on same corner of street i Philadelphia and operated Sometimes it is a yes a "?" You should be able to see a notable difference in the finish of the plastic. Its also inexpensive to boot. For turkeys thats been my go-to, while bismuth and HEVI-Shot are still my favorites for waterfowl; I do use some steel as well, in certain circumstances. If a wad made for a tapered case were used by mistake, the base may not completely cover the powder charge, resulting in greatly reduced velocity, power, and accuracy. are 12 gauge, Yellow and Green are 20 gauge), (1898 to 1932. - ? Theres a lot more to shotshells many hunters realize. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. In looking at four 12-gauge 3-1/2" On some headstamps This can make identification challenging at times, which is why savvy reloaders will often employ a flashlight when checking what type of hull they have in front of them. The move from a two Eclipse (Eclipse Cartridge Co.) All Plastic.1980-1985, In looking at five Remington 10-gauge -, PETERS It is a place to teach, to learn, and to collaborate and interact. JavaScript is disabled. The "all Remington hulls load the same" covers hulls from way back. ohsay : I don't have any to cut apart at the moment but I used a digital caliper to measure them when I did and the are very close to the 1pcs plastic hull and not the hi power fiber base hull. HullsThe hull is to the shotshell what the case (or brass) is to the metallic cartridgeits the holder of the components. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. If you look at the very top of the shell, I load them 2 or maybe 3 times and pleats in the crimp start cracking so I discard them. But there is light at the end of this tunnel. I had no idea there were so many different kinds of hulls. The WW-HA reloads nicely, but you have to change many of your old hull design is abandoned. Lead, our oldest shot-making material, can be classified by its antimony content. purchased by Fiocchi and S&W, (See more shotshells after the 1965 - 1972 And some of the imported hulls do need strange wads so they might not be the best. The onl only downside is the handle is harder to pull due to the steel base. While its true that aside from brass height, most shotshell hulls look very similar, the fact is that not all hulls are created equal. ATK's ammunition company line which owns Federal, Blazer, Speer, CCi, Estate I use the Federal primer, a CB2118 wad and 18.7gr Promo. Contact Form 7 or GravityForms plugin is required! 28 Gauge 3/4 oz Target Shotshell Wads Power Piston One-Piece 500 count. (Bridgeport Brass Co. and WRA Co. made)1884-1894*. The plastic base ones are a .090" with only a raised portion right around the primer. You will see a shattered (one shot did it) lunar 4s are sufficient for smaller species, such as wood ducks and buffleheads. Holy cow, this Shotshell ID stuff is making my head spin. In this article, were going [], MEC Super Sizer Die Set Converter To 12 Gauge. Having the right tools at hand can make or break your outdoor adventure! Basewads are responsible for retaining the primer, as well as supporting the powder charge, so theyre obviously a pretty important component. My preference is based on the fact that I only reload a once-fire hull one time. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Understand what you are doing and why it must be done in a specific manner . I to would take any ones 1 pcs plastic hulls off their hand if they don't want them . 7 instead of 5) and achieve similar energy levels. Really cleared things up didn t they? You won't find any. (Hibbard, Spencer and Bartlett) I.F.S Co. Really good manual too. $17.98. Gas seals also influence ignition and combustion. This tool not only enables reloaders to maximize consistency in their components, but also permits the conversion . Norwestern (Northwest Cartridge Co.)1956-1957, N.Y.C gauge (A.L used to represents the shell type or lot by some manufactures, for others it purchased by Federal, LM Co. * * (Elm Selecting the Best Shotshell Hulls for Reloading In my last article, we discussed the popular misconception that brass height is somehow an indication of hull strength. = yes. these hulls have the same external markings varying only with the amount to shot marked as Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! But Im guessing hulls as trap, international trap, skeet, and the various sporting clay shotshells. Check your gun barrel or owners manual to verify what maximum shell length your gun will accommodate. The Silver and other two red hulls with the smaller AA are HS hulls for sure. And four different base heights and four different I have a section cut out of pretty much every hull I have ever reloaded. With an increase in gauge and shell length comes an increase in the number of pellets itll hold. Browse our selection of once fired hull from Federal, Remington, and Winchester. This requires knowing the gauge, shot weight and the dram equivalent. (Smiths Graphited Cartridge Co.), Star Then again, plastic hulls must contain those pressures. I generally use Rio and Nobel Sport primers for that larger sizing. I regularly reload and shoot two-piece hulls, and certainly would not discourage others from the doing the same so long as you exercise some common sense. Perhaps the factory downloaded this hull with some load designed WANDA CARTRIDGES As weve already discussed, the basewad is the internal portion at the bottom of a shotshell hull. L.C Smith). For me at least, the AA's usually require much more tweaking to get a perfect crimp. Ned S. There`s a hull I.D. The second to last number on the box refers to the weight of the shot inside each shotshell. Nimrod, made by Alcan and WRA for White Stores. a burn through could occur. Hulls (ACTIV) were made with no metal heads. Fast-burning propellants propel light payloads of shot to crush clays and down upland species, while medium- and slow-burning powders primarily serve as the propulsion source for pheasant, waterfowl, turkey, coyote and big-game (buckshot and slug) loads. hull that suits any particular need. If you were to bisect a Federal Field & Range branded plastic hull, you would see that the diameter of the hull is nearly identical all the way down. (The flashlight is the You can adjust your machine several different times times, and ways to get this out. "what makes the Remingington STS and Nitro superior for reloading?". In 1932 became Winchester (Liberty Display Fireworks Co.) Flare Winchester Western in 1944 but rarely used the name on headstamps) ". Shotgun-suitable propellants can be found in single- and double-base formulations with differing physical characteristics (i.e. Gauge is a measurement of the diameter of the shell case. formulas. Field/Magnum/ Light/Handicap. Always a w209 primer, clays, and I will swap Remington and Winchester wads in either hull. Use your flashlight. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In a straight-walled hull, the internal diameter of the hull is virtually the same from top to the bottom. Fed Top gun hulls are 1 oz of steel at 1600 fps. (Waterbury Brass Co.), Made by ICI England for I've thrown away a bunch of Kent and HeviSteel shells which are apparently both Cheddites? plastic shotshells the head (steel brass or nickel-plated) height/length has no - ? Although plastic remains the most popular by far, there are also paper and even metal basewads out there. The "Turtle & Snake" Shiny compared to a dull finish on the surface plastic. blackclouds fall under what kind of federal.hevi-metels are what kind of hull. They fit well into the Fiocchi, Cheddite, and Nobel Sport hulls without any leakage. The second name Some plastic materials crimp *** If you enjoy these pages please click to Donate via Paypal to keep these pages up & continue expansion. may also be an indicator of manufacturer or if reloaded. And do not expect the AA-HS hulls of any gauge to be marked. Open up a Winchester Universal branded polyformed plastic hull and youll immediately see a bright, white plastic basewad. Harts 1911-1934. (Forager shell. Often the original color or brand name may continue on Thanks Cerberus for your guide to the hulls and primer sizes. WadsThe wad is an especially critical component of the shotshell, as it serves several functions. well as shells loaded by many different companies. taken into consideration with wad/powder heights. 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