Should be interesting to see how it works out. 2) in the same context, which would be the best pair for Pinkerton tree Hass, Fuerte or Bacon? Ill try some beneficial predator mites next. Do you have any neighbors with avocado trees in their yard? Should complement the GEM season. The elderly couples yard suddenly became an internet sensation and these people kept getting surprise visitors in their front yard until they asked people to take videos of their tree off of YouTube and started turning visitors away. http://www.avocadosource.com/Journals/2_Seminario/2_Seminario_Talks_Kohne_Rootstocks.pdf, This is when I realised the tremendous importance of the rootstock (some rootstocks have three times bigger yields than the others!). I also checked on a huge old Nabal in OB that I used to eat from, and I was pleased to find that the tree is now doing better than last year. Found some 5gals at Atkins in Fallbrook. My son, who ate it with me, called it the bestest avocado ever. (Though only a kindergartener, he has eaten his share of avocado varieties and actually has an opinion worth listening to!). Thanks Griswold in a 1945 article titled, The Hass Avocado. This was written when the green Fuerte was king of a young California avocado industry. Could you make a suggestion and where I may obtain that tree. So I could eat Fuerte starting in the late fall, then switch to Hass in the spring, and pick Reeds from the summer until almost when the next crop of Fuerte is ready. Do you suggest shade clothes for all my trees (about 4 feet tall, 15 gal), or will it stunt growth too much? I am curious what your recommendation and thoughts are for year around great tasting avocados from my backyard in Tustin. First, there is no best rootstock. The fruit is very similar to the Hass Avocado, except this variety is larger and has a longer shelf life. I have a friend who lives in your area: nice place to grow avocados. See if you can find a Reed to try again in September and youll probably get a richer flavor from it. And I started reading about rootstocks. The Mexicola Grande avocado is the most frost-resistant of all avocado varieties. The two main differences between Bacon and Fuerte are that Fuerte tastes better but Bacon is more productive. I wanted to say I appreciate all you do with your website and videos. Its significantly bigger than Hass, as seen in the photo above, andReed also stays green when its ripe. Step 5. Also no information whether it is a clonal rootstock or a seedling one (for avocado trees). Thanks again for everything. About 8 miles inland in Southern Sonoma County. It is very helpful! Is that the same down South? Taste Ive read is great. When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. Thank you for all the great information! It seems that Reed has the advantage in terms of fruit production. I think Ill pick a few avocados that you mentioned (knowing me Ill get to the store and come back with seven) Call me crazy but I just ordered 10 thermometers that record the max/min temp on my property. Carmen and GEM are definitely both worth adding to your collection in terms of being great tasting, high yielding, and having good hang time. var. Sixty percent shade cloth over the trees can work as long as its only over the top (not wrapping the entire tree) and more than a few inches higher than the tree (not almost touching the top leaves). So much amazing information here youre helping me gain confidence in my dream of planting an avocado tree in our backyard. There are so many in the Santa Barbara area. Wonder what that was all about. Once you have tried a GreyStar avocado, you will quickly conclude that GreyStar is several rungs up the ladder from Hass in flavour, quality and value. I can give it time but wonder if starting new isnt a better option. Hi Robert, For more information visit the NZ Avocado Industry Ltd website or phone 0800 AVOCADO / 0800 286 2236. I cant imagine between them, my brother and I, that it will be a problem, lol. Hass is amazing in this way. This is so fun! Thanks for the input, and its really along the lines that I was looking down. Fuerte. Dig a hole twice as large as the tree's root system, carefully plant the tree and cover the roots. Based on other research, Id been drawn to trying a GEM avocado tree here in NoCal on the coast (near Ft. Bragg and Mendocino). In 1992, the USDA banned shipment of the Sharwil avocados after an oriental fruit fly larva was found in a Hawaiian packinghouse that processed Sharwil avocados and other local produce. We also have a Cate Macadamia tree in the backyard which is doing excellent. The key difference is that Florida avocados contain a lot less fat. So if youre toward that side of Temecula, you might get Sharwils to hang on the tree a long time compared to the eastern side of Temecula. dont know how to grow in your region, They have been so helpful for me starting my garden. Its great for grapes and pomegranates, harsh for avocados. Or maybe scratch all those and go with GEM or Gwen? made to the U.S. Mainland and beyond, with the eventual eye toward gaining approval to ship. I will order the combination you recommended. Like Lamb, it will drop some fruit about now in spring before its mature, but you still always end up with a good crop. by Laurie Meadows. I think they can be really helpful if done well. And the sharwil does not have the nutty notes like the hass. Two, get a combination of hardier varieties and others like Hass, Reed, GEM, etc. Nevertheless, a friend of mine has got a very young avocado tree in her garden (grown from a seed, probably a Hass seed), which gave it first fruits this summer. However, the main challenge is that different varieties grow at different rates so you have to prune in order to make sure that one (or more) dont take over and shade out the other(s). Otherwise other avocado nuts (like myself) might annoy the generous owners of the mother tree. They explain about varieties and rootstocks and even about clonal vs seedling rootstock (that was an amazing discovery as well). When you talk to them they are totally clueless. As Adrian alluded to above, Hass and Reed are A types while Fuerte is a B type, which makes cross-pollination all the more likely, enhancing fruit set. What do think of a Reed vs. Sharwil in temecula where it can both get too hot and too cold some avocados? A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. North American market for . Im also wondering if I might be happier going with a pair of smaller trees that let me enjoy avocados closer to year-round. In that case, the tree needs to be kept cool and hydrated as far as possible. Oops! Step 4. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); I'm Greg. The Hass has a ton and the Fuerte as well. Perhaps the Lamorinda has the answer? I certainly appreciate it when others make clear and quality videos to help me. But I will say that it is definitely precocious in my yard. Ive done it with some of my trees; with others I allow low branching, multiple leaders, and more of a globe shape overall. Can I say in between vertical and horizontal? The Nabal trees I know are not so wide spreading like a Fuerte, and neither are they more upright like a Bacon can be. Recently I moved to the cusp of Zones 9a and 9b. This is a tough call. Im considering a 6 X 10 planting. I live in So Calif Inland Empire (Norco); hot summers, rarely below 29 30 in winter. Hass has the wonderful ability to mature its fruit and then hold them on the tree for many months, waiting for you to pick them. Theyre both great varieties, and good complementary trees for a Reed. However, I did a lot of research, and read dozens of artciles in English, mostly about growing avocados in the US and all the different varieties (when it come to planting something new, I pay a lot of attention to the variety choice) The challenge is that many of them have similar harvest seasons, which are spring into summer: Hass, Sharwil, GEM, Gwen. Also, there is nothing written about growing avocados in France. We have acreage The Land located above Hilo, Hawaii, at 800 foot elevation. Several of the Type A avocados are quite Hass-like, or descendants from Hass itself. Today, the 'Hass' accounts for about 80 percent of all avocados consumed in the entire world. My head was spinning, trying to develop the perfect avocado plan for my hillside. Hi Elizabeth, I also have a Bacon way in the back yard mostly for pollinating. Ill suggest other varieties and give lots of reasons and scenarios in the upcoming post. In my climate (Ramona), we can get heat waves of 100 degrees in May or June while fruitlets are still small and vulnerable. Ive been told that landfills in other counties offer similar products. Looks like my own graft will take. Avocado strains include Nishikawa, Sharwil, and Lamb Hass. Sharwil avocados from . Is the white wash enough? Theres no rush. I have bought a number of trees there. The Hass avocado is one of the most delicious varieties of avocado around, with a rich creamy flesh and superior taste. I am curious to see if it will fruit consistently. Do you have any experience or exposure to Nabal Avos? No one even the owner knows what variety it is, but there is a lot of fruits on it. One of them doesnt deliver to France. Where approximately in Northern California are you located? You can always try a Hass too, and just prune it to the size you want. The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. One concern I have about fresh trimmings is the build up of spores and what not from it just being piled up (6 inches or so thick). Which basically means it may be grafted on just anything. They have both Reed and Hass, both Duke 7 and Dusa. . I havent seen it with my own two eyes growing in a location quite as hot as Norco. It was at Lowes with just an Ettinger tag. Hass beats almost everyone at the length of its harvest season. But where to find this information otherwise? I figured there had to be one. It has set more fruit while young than most of my other varieties. The Kona Sharwil Avocado is a pear-shaped fruit that is green when ripe. When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? I say sad because avocados must be the easiest trees on the planet to prune. It is medium in size with rough green skin and yellowish-green flesh. About the winter/spring varieties that you mentioned: I dont know how much heat Wurtz can handle. Trees will be on south facing slope w full sun. Buddy, youre the best. We live in Carlsbad, CA, which I believe is sunset zone 24. Tamp the soil down around the tree's . If I had the space for only one avocado tree, I would plant a Hass. So I have got as close as I can while understanding that the season is going to be affected by many other things anyway. I have been watching this tree for years since I work in the area, had some fruit once they turned black and they taste exactly like Fuerte! See my post on Where to buy an avocado tree, and contact Subtropica Nurseries to inquire there. This way I still have the varieties (and I hope I get as much fruit as possible from them) but Im not wasting space and water on a lot of unproductive foliage. Thank you. Compared to Hass, its harvest season isnt quite as long. Greg, thanks for the article and all the comments. You ought to add either Lamb or Reed for avocados to be eaten in summer into fall, yes; your grafting idea there is a good one. This is how your year in avocados could look. Gwens downfall as a commercial variety was primarily its green skin; it doesnt turn black as it ripens like Hass. Im planning on planting a Reed. 3 years old Hass on Mexican race seedling; unknown type 1 year old Pinkerton on unknown seedling Im in Van Nuys, which is Sunset Zone 18. Yes, thats my thought and what I suspected you might think as well! Lots of dieback when it reached 117F for 3 days. I just bought a house in Covina, CA, and Im looking to plant two varieties in the same area (about 10 apart) once our cold spell is over. And such dense shade cloth (60%) right above the trees for the whole summer would be too much shade and would reduce growth. In my garden, I have only one Reed. Sometimes the selection and quality is terrible, but sometimes its excellent. When they set a lot like your trees have, they must shed some or else branches will break, get sunburned, even die back from the stress of growing too much fruit. The only caveat Id make is that Pinkerton and Gwen both seem to like to have a B-type avocado nearby in order to produce their maximum. I recently bought a Hass and Reed on salt tolerant root stock. One of the challenging things is actually figuring out the season for each time and what that season is for those varieties in the location it is planted. For those who have a large yard, Martin. We have tried to plant Hass avocados about four times and despite every best effort with location change in the yard and switching up irrigation they all eventually turned black on the trunk, browned leaf tips, and given up, to our dismay. I would be happy to share with you if you are interested. (it is tempting to just buy a larger tree but im in it for the long run). We have/had four avo trees planted next to each other. On your south-facing slope it might not be as happy. . This is one of the "classic" avocados. Mateo. Old mexicana only a few a year, sometimes none. I love your articles!! Heres a link to Miramars offerings: https://www.sandiego.gov/environmental-services/miramar/greenery/cmw#products. Thank you so much for your answer. FRUITING VARIETY Hass Carmen Hass - subject to $5.18 + GST per tree royalty payment Maluma Hass - subject to $5.00 + GST per tree royalty payment Reed Sharwil Greg The Reed is only two years old and have not harvested any fruit yet. It means a lot to me! Where to find Sharwil Avocados? I am jealous you are growing all those Hawaiian varieties and am interested in what you have to say about taste once that time comes and how the trees are doing. Over the past 2 weeks sheltering in place, Im noticing lots of small fruit starting. But at least it was grown in Southern California. By the way, I have a few other Hawaiian varieties growing that Ive never tasted and am wondering if youd recommend giving any of them more or less attention and space: Murashige, Malama, Nishikawa, Kahaluu? As a matter of fact, choosing the varieties was just the beginning)))) You can go two ways about it. Guaranteed meaning: We have grown trees in areas away from tall trees, so not to be pollinated by them. I saw his GEMs on Toro Canyon and they looked perfect and vigorous. It just does not seem logical) But later I read, that often Fuerte is not a reliable cropper. Two main varieties on offer. In August I managed to order more avocado trees directly from Brokaw (Spain). Hi Joseph, But I think its going to be a more common variety for Southern California in the future. And youre right about the tree looking weird, but it works. The equipment you need to move between rows to do your spraying will have to be accommodated. TREE SIZES. Its a challenge to choose a single avocado variety to plant. Great read! Reed Avocado Greengold Avocado. Replaced with a Reed which is doing great so far. The flesh is very oily, rich and creamy tasting. Thanks! Were trying to get avocados all year round with varieties weve tried and like. However, if youd like a B type to complement Hass for pollination and season extension then Id go with Fuerte, Sharwil, or Nabal. There are lots of other very good avocado varieties. Thank you! 100% Hawaiian Sharwil Avocados. In the meantime, there are heaps of other varieties that are already publicly available to explore. On June 10 and 11 last year (2019), my yard reached 100 both days. Hi Thomas, It will be in the first week of October. For example, Ive got some avocado trees planted at 7.5 feet apart, and thats a spacing that some commercial growers use. Thank you. You live in a fantastic neighborhood for growing avocados, as you obviously know. [About our soil: it is not acid at all, for sure. Ive enjoyed reading your posts as I consider my Avocado plant. Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. Take out the two dead and the one just barely hanging on and plant three new trees or find an entirely new place to plant away from the pool? All avocado varieties need roughly the same care. By 1991, Sharwil was finally cleared for export and shipments were. I named the tree Lamorinda after the area it is grown which is name referring to the 3 cities of Lafayette, Moraga and Orinda. Maybe not the best. The Reed avocado variety is a chance seedling of Nabal, selected by James Reed in California in 1948. In the meantime, well work on protecting it from sunburn when it hits 100 F or 110 F in a few months! 'Sharwil' is a Mexican and Guatemalan cross and represents more than 57% of the commercial acreage in Hawaii. THANK YOU for sharing such a wealth of information! Its crazy that these bigger nurseries carry many more inferior varieties, such as Zutano, while less frequently have Reed. We can all hope, cant we? These are varieties that take a long time to get big enough to be useful as shade trees compared to other varieties. Its just hard to start growing a tree that you: What's more - I don't want to mush up my avo on my toast. I have been in contact with them for Carmen, GEM and Ettinger trees and late January was told to ask later in April for the trees. Great for guacamole, or just eating out of hand with a dash of salt. Are they light producing or is that they are slow growing therefore they are light producing because they are small? I am looking for something to pair with Hass for extended season and help in pollination. 4. Great to hear all of this. And dont worry about the distance. See my post, Can you grow an avocado in a small yard?. Hi David, Great to hear! Yes, you can definitely graft several varieties onto one tree. I read that Duke 7 (American) and Dusa (South African) are to this day the best rootstocks. Finally, Ill say that if I had to have two avocado trees of any one variety, it would definitely be Hass. This autumn, I decided to order more avocado trees from Brokaw. Let me get things together on my side before I share too much about the Lamorinda tree. Highlights. I have a space there where its convenient for them to dump. You just have to do a little pruning to make sure they share sunlight and space. 2 Reed (on Dusa) for me and the cathedral, and one Bacon (on Dusa) for the cathedral. Thanks again for all the information. For the summer/fall varieties, Im unsure about Gwen. This is according to these articles of course. Great article, and I agree with your choices of Hass, Reed, and Fuerte, but only if you live in a true mild avocado climate. 'Greengold' and 'Murashige' are other green-skinned cultivars recommended by CTAHR for commercial planting. might be possible to buy a Lamb Hass (but I read about the Lamb Hasss strong habit of alternate bearing). One, get only the hardier varieties, such as Fuerte, Bacon, Zutano, or Puebla. But I still hesitate about the rootstock variety. Our water on the Mesa is exceptionally hard, and Im wondering if perhaps we should try a Lamb or Reed instead, or how salt tolerant a Fuerte is? 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