Later that night, or first thing you know, into the wee hours of the next morning, the communication was out to the people of Harvest, and it was over. They should go to the reconciliation team. I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. But that is my hope. The 8 Best Julie Roys Podcasts. We dont know what it would look like tomorrow. Im sorry, before a so called board.removes a man of God they must first consider the fruit of his ministry. His sermons changed from adoration of the text to little postcard messages. Come out of her, my people. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. In this episode of The Roys Report, former Harvest elder, Dan George, joins Julie to tell the real story of MacDonalds firing. Thanks for for standing up for what was right. His employment is coming to an end. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. We dont know how much the top people at Harvest make. I remember waking up that morning. He is not a pastor. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. And then saying, I need a private jet to fly me home. I remember praying before the Harvest Elgin campus as a garage, and its a former corporate space. I was literally sitting in a hotel lobby waiting for a pickup at one oclock in the morning to catch an overnight flight back from India. In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. Please dont read something into a story thats not there. You have exemplified godly leadership and godly character. Good to be here. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! Because when you report on this for months, you feel the pain of the people that are involved. So then James McDonald flies in, right? Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. And I know it was a battle. Jennifer He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. It was demonic. Literally more than two dozen people. We STILL confuse sex and gender, which leads to conflating a lot of issues when discussing this. And had those letters not reach the board, its hard to say where James McDonald would be today. Im sad for his fall. And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. I would listen to MacArthur, Piper and Macdonald on a regular basis. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. How do spot a safe pastorand can. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? May 19, 2021 10:53 am To some former Harvest Bible Chapel insiders, Rick Donald was not just James MacDonald's right-hand man; he was also his "hatchet man" or "smiling assassin." Load more He was in Walk in the Word studios apparently, and said some really vile things, including, you know, joking about putting child porn on a computer, joking about me having an affair with a Christianity Today editor, which has no basis in fact whatsoeve. What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. And whats so tough in this whole thing is that there are wolves among the sheep. And I got it. Six people who I doubt wherever actually all in the same room. harmful to the best interests, Disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, continued his tirade against me and The Roys Report on Tuesday, repeatedly calling me #JRgossipslut and asserting that I am, According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. He has always been a total its all about me. It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. The airing accelerated the timeline. Subscribe here for Pastor James' twice-weekly email devotionals straight to you inbox, plus occasional updates regarding his ministries, events, and personal news. No One Knows. But the other letters, my understanding is they came in, and youre in a meeting with the other elders. . How come its always wives submit to your husbands and never husbands love your wives? How about that one? Im Julie Roys. Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. Yeah Cynthia. And there were several of us saying, you know, looking at I Timothy 5, looking at Hebrews 13:17, which tells us that elders are going to give an account. I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. I just know I got them. What Happens Now? I was at work. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. You know, Ive been here the whole time. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. He further claims Harvests elders crafted false accusations against him as a pure act of vindictiveness to cover the churchs looting of his former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word. Yet, Dan, you owned it. And again, youre one of the people who actually apologized for that. It was a battle in the natural but more than that, there was a spiritual battle going on then, and I think its still going on now. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. And this is when everything really started happening. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. And we talk about that Scripture and quote it over and over again. Well, youre welcome. If you hear that from the pulpit, or you hear that up front, I think, if Im sitting, if Im sitting in the seat, I think well, how fast can I get to my car and confess everything that just the Holy Spirit just brought to mind? Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. And we were at an absolute stalemate. How can we approve this? And were talking about a private jet. But would he have been able to save face do you think? I didnt, I didnt argue with him. And you got all of them. Great! There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. I see that as just simply implicating a larger group and a conspiracy to use church money for stuff that was never intended. If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. I think there was a group in the in the room that would have let him have the microphone that weekend. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. She wrote about, you alluded to it, she wrote about the end of this Risen for the Nations tour when they were in Haiti. I just knew the Lord made it clear I had to do it. You do that, and hope that the person will repent, and that they will turn and that therell be restoration. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. And today youre going to hear from a former insider at Harvest, former elder Dan George. | (Photo: Harvest Bible Chapel video screen grab) Harvest Bible Chapel has dropped a lawsuit against author and journalist Julie Roys and the writers of the Elephant's Debt blog amid public scrutiny for an alleged culture of fear, intimidation, and financial mismanagement. According to The Elephant's Debt (TED), a blog critical of MacDonald that launched in the summer of 2012, MacDonald was then taking a salary over $500,000, and living on a $1.9 million estate. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. Very loyal to James McDonald. James MacDonald. Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. Id read through everything and all the letters. And many who have followed this story know what James McDonald has done. I remember as a young pastor first hearing about James at a 2002 Moody Pastors Conference and reading his well written book on hermeneutics with an apologetic leaning and being blessed from his book. I did hear from one after I reached out to him because we had another connection with another organization that hes a head of. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. I acknowledge my sin to you. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. . Yes, and I would add that baked into the command for husbands to love their wives is the definition of love in 1 Corinthians 13. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. How much do you make? I knew letters were coming to the elder board per First Timothy 5. But somewhere around 2008-10 his preaching changed a bit. To donate, click here. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. If youre truly interested in hearing other views ask why or tell me how you landed there. So he was fired. And were like, boy, I hate to say this, but that just felt demonic. He should sell cars or computers. Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. Then let me just ask you from the start, why are you doing this? Julie Roys October 8, 2020. I stepped into a conference room. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? It basically says Jesus is as real as Santa Claus. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. So what happened? But its a story that needs to be toldand rememberedgiven that MacDonald is trying to relaunch his ministry in Chicago. Great! I agree that its loving to speak the truth, even when its unpopular, but the New Testament also has a lot to say about the way we conduct ourselves and how we should treat each other. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Not saying anything about the about the men in the room, but that becomes unwieldy. And and that would be my word to James McDonald. And why do you do it in front of everybody? Okay thats what Gods word says. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. This is James said what he said. No, Im just reporting. That was you, wasnt it? John MacArthur, for example, has preached, Scripture does not automatically permit divorce in the case of a physically abusive husband. Instead, MacArthur urges abused wives not to provoke any circumstances that will make your husband become violent. But if he continues to be abusive, The wife should remove herself from danger by fleeing the home if necessary.. He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. And thank you for loving our Lord and showing the way. And I know its cost you personally. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. Nearly 30 pages, innumerable charges between all those people, Julie, they served on the staff of Harvest Bible Chapel for somewhere between 40 and 50 years collectively. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. Longtime leader of the Chicago-area megachurch Harvest Bible Chapel James MacDonald has been ousted as senior pastor in light of unsavory remarks he made on a hot mic that were aired on local media Tuesday. Yeah. But he said even the way said that he said, we got out of that meeting, we looked at each other. . Again, thanks so much for joining me today. And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. However as I grew in age and hopefully in wisdom, I consulted other versions of the Bible. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, who's a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. It was in the very, very early days of its launch. He wasnt bringing it to the elders and through a discussion with a couple of the pastors, chose to give it to the elders, which we were thankful for. Divorce sadly acknowledges the truth. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. On that Haiti trip. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. Tragically . Also, in addition to those, you have the letter that was written by eight former elders at Harvest, who brought them in 2012, to the elder board, and within 24 hours, were excommunicated for bringing charges against James McDonald. And when I read that, I just shook my head. On Thursday, Im in a meeting with him where honestly, Julie, they were trying to convince me and the other elders in the room that hadnt been in previous meetings to let him resign. James MacDonald (born October 4, 1960) is a Canadian-born evangelical Christian pastor, television evangelist, and author. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? But again, you push that issue, you got those letters. 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